November 9, 2011

Evangelicalism’s Got Talent

A few weeks ago I posted some concerns (you can read them here) about various subtle—and I believe threatening—trends in preaching today. One respondent gently took exception and expressed concern that I might’ve over-generalized in making my case. While a full treatment of this subject is thicker than the limits of typical blog-posts, I promised a more extensive look at the matter.

Recently I listened to a panel discussion of well-known pastors discussing the merits, if any, of establishing new churches whose primary shepherd/preacher is heard and known only by live-streaming video. Those in favor offered two main reasons: (1) It works! Patently faster than other numerically-driven approaches, the live-stream messages of admired preachers draws more people from, well, wherever they were before; (2) Only some men have the kind of giftedness to “bring it powerfully” in the pulpit, and so we should maximize their outreach potential through technology.

Now, aside from what I think are grave errors with that particular approach to feeding the flock (which weren’t addressed in the panel discussion, but that’s for another post), two issues cause me to think that evangelicalism is being duped when it comes to how we evaluate effective ministries and preaching. We make wrong assumptions about “giftedness” and this leads to an errant view of expository preaching. This post will simply focus on the first of those points.

Assumptions about “Giftedness”

Some of the panelists freely refer to superior giftedness in preaching without explaining what they mean. In fact, one of the younger pastors, in defense of having his messages streamed to other locations, put it bluntly when he said, “No one else in my church can preach the word as powerfully as I can.” It was, to say the least, an unmeasured statement, given other more seasoned preachers in the room, but my primary concern is with how we use terms like “giftedness” and “powerful preaching.” Are we certain that today’s preachers and their congregations have a biblical understanding of these things? Is a preacher’s “effectiveness” or “power” defined by established and measurable principles, or is it merely determined by audience size and response?

The assumption seems to be that when larger audiences quickly flock to hear a particular preacher, it signals that God is using a super-gifted Bible expositor to satisfy an audience’s voracious appetite for truth. In other words, these men automatically assume that where crowds of thousands suddenly descend upon a fairly empty church building to hear them preach by video, it is their unique giftedness, powerful expositions, and the congregation’s appetite for truth that has caused it. Lest I be charged with making sweeping generalizations, one of the men on the panel—a well-known advocate of his sermons being live-streamed to other churches—explained that he was approached by a local pastor with a church of 35, asking if his church could “stream” the mega-pastor’s sermons. In less than two years, “1500 people” filled the building where once only 35 attended. Again, the popular preacher concluded that the combination of his gifting and the people’s doctrinal appetite made it all happen. Moreover, he lamented the fact that anyone would have a problem with such results because, and I’m paraphrasing, “Why would anyone have an issue with more people coming into the church to hear God’s word preached?”

This is precisely the kind of snap-conclusion that weakens our ability to discern. Nothing should be assumed simply because large crowds want to hear a particular preacher! False teachers speaking lies can get the same results. Joel Osteen boasts the largest congregation in the country, and his audience believes his giftedness to be unrivaled. Clearly, however, he tickles their ears and they elevate him for it! Osteen’s big crowd, his popular communication style, and his moralistic sermons laced with Bible-generalities are no proof of either his true spiritual giftedness or his congregation’s appetite for truth. It is dangerous to assume that accelerated numerical growth and fashionable oratory are sure signs of gifted Bible exposition and congregational maturity. In fact, as I stated in my original post, 2 Timothy 4:3 warns of a time when people in the church will install teachers who “tickle their ears” because they will no longer tolerate unvarnished Bible doctrine. That being the case, how will the church discern such a dangerous trend if we continue stubbornly pointing to mass appeal in defense of shallow teaching?

Any spiritually shallow audience, with no desire for serious Bible teaching, can popularize a preacher whose “style” and content is equally superficial. Where I live, many congregations tout their preacher as “lights-out-gifted,” and the preacher, seeing the crowds, assumes he has unique gifts and that his audience loves truth. But neither can prove their case by such evidence alone. The insipid audience makes the preacher popular by choosing to exalt his ministry precisely because of his shallow spiritual “talks.” And the equally diluted preacher attracts the audience by scratching where they itch. In these cases, it is blindness to assume that crowds are drawn by the preacher’s gifting, when all that really occurred is a bit of old fashioned consumerism. The people looked for what they wanted, found it, and bought it! It is equally blind to assume that the preacher is “super-gifted” or keenly “expositional” when all that really happened is that he found an audience as superficial as he.

I fear that a similar thing is occurring today among true evangelical believers. As with other seasons of church history when preaching was slowly stripped of its precision, clarity, and doctrinal depth, many contemporary congregations have slowly been robbed of the same. The problem is: they don’t know it. The erosion has been too subtle. The banks of the river have been slowly compromised at the foundation while happy campers frolic at the raging water’s edge. And it’s only a matter of time before the soil gives way. People today gladly sit through sermons that, were it not for some reference to a passage or verse, are little more than motivational speeches drawn primarily from life-experience and a mix of truth and earthly opinions. If ever confronted about their lack of doctrinal or theological depth, teachers consistently ballyhoo their swelling numbers as ministry collateral. With confidence, they deduce that behind large numbers is a uniquely gifted, one-of-a-kind expositor “bringing it like no other.” I’m concerned that in many cases, neither the preacher’s gifting, nor his expositional skills, nor the congregation’s love of definitive truth has anything to do with the hype. It’s often the result of the dumbed-down leading the equally dumbed-down with no one truly being “constantly nourished on the words of the faith and of the sound doctrine” (1 Timothy 4:6).

Is there any way we can know whether a person is truly gifted to teach or not? I think there is. The grace-gifts of the Spirit are specific and very powerful “enablements” uniquely expressed through the obedient service of every believer (1 Peter 4:10ff). What makes these gifts unique is that the Spirit employs our own personality, our mental aptitude, our growing spiritual depth, and our increasing skill in the word, infusing them with supernatural power to strengthen the faith of others. The teaching gifts are those enablements given for clearly and compellingly articulating God’s truth. Some men and women can apprehend truth quite well, but are unable to systematically and persuasively re-teach what they know. Inexplicably, the truth they so clearly grasp in their mind and heart gets scrambled when it comes out of their mouth in a ministry setting. There are others who seem able to clearly present what the Bible teaches, but have no capacity to draw out transcendent implications and insights for the building up of others. In such cases there is absolutely no shame in blooming somewhere else in God’s garden. He has, however, uniquely “wired” the minds and dispositions of some to think about truth and to teach it in ways that the rest of us readily grasp and are effectively compelled by.

It is true that a teacher’s skill and maturity are factors for which they bear responsibility while raw aptitude and personality are a matter of how God chooses to “wire” them. Preachers, therefore, can hone their skills and godly character, but ultimately it is the Spirit’s gifting that enables the preacher to reach various levels of influence. When we begin defining or evaluating giftedness by superficial criteria such as mass appeal or communication style we lose our objectivity and adopt false notions of “powerful preaching.” So what are the most basic signs of the “teaching gift”? Well, they have nothing to do with the number of listeners, or with rapidly filling a once empty church building, or with how many sermon-downloads, book sales, and multisite locations a preacher boasts. They are quite simple:

  • a) Is the teacher able to clearly articulate biblical truth to others so that the listener understands exactly what God intends and grasps how to apply the truth for their spiritual benefit?
  • b) Is the teacher able to clearly and definitively refute subtle and blatant doctrinal error so that the sheep are protected from confusion or deception?
  • c) Is the teacher able to clearly bring profound and edifying spiritual insight from God’s word to the specific needs of believers so that spiritual discernment increases and they are compelled to obey Christ?

Outside of the above, there really are no other objective marks of a “gifted preacher.” Oratory “styles” come and go. Audience appetites differ greatly from church to church. One preacher’s personality may be everyone’s “cup of tea” today and no one’s tomorrow. In fact, filling up buildings is relatively easy, as the pragmatic give-them-what-they-like approach has proven over the past four decades.

The harder work of actually feeding and leading the Lord’s sheep demands much more than hasty giddiness over flash-popularity.

Click here for Part Two.

in Evangelicalism, Preaching with 40 Comments
  • http://archersinsa.blogspot.com Clint

    Great post Jerry. Something I’ve noticed is that some of these “mega-preachers” started off with great expository preaching. Then over time they began to neglect cautiousness with the text as their audience inflated. I wonder if the larger audience tempts some preachers (or necessitates?) them to make the seem more appealing to a growing, general, faceless mass of listeners, rather than the flock that they know personally “among whom” they shepherd. I’d be interested in your take on that.

    • Jerry Wragg

      I’ve certainly watched many of these churches drift in the manner you’ve noted, Clint. I would also add, however, that from the beginning of their rise to notoriety most of the larger-than-life preachers I’ve heard never actually did in-depth exposition at all. It’s always been more of the “contemporary relevance” emphasis imposed on whatever passage they think somehow might relate. We shouldn’t be surprised though, since the pragmatic approach never did hold a high view of doctrinal or expositional skill. Many of these men simply don’t have even the basics of theological or expositional training.

      • Ekim

        I cannot comment on the younger one’s training, but at least the one older one does have sufficient training and endorses all the rock-star pastors. AW Tozer was not qualified in the sufficient training area and still teaches us today. His last article before he died, The Waning Authority of Christ in the Churches, is as revealing to us today as it was in 1961. I would not say training is the real issue, but the article above is telling and it’s telling us we are in trouble if this trend continues…

        • Jerry Wragg

          Ekim, part two of this post will deal with the issue of exposition, and whether the preaching trends today could be legitimately called sound.

          Thank you for engaging…

          • Ekim

            Thanks Jerry, I look forward to it.

            I was fortunate as a young believer as I had mentors surround me with sound teaching. I am saddened with today’s teaching in what we call mega-churches. It seems the message has been dumbed down for the masses resulting in Christianity-light. No blood, no repentance, no sin(it’s called issues now), a lack of biblical holiness, no denial of self, and so on.

            I know Paul teaches us that the message of the cross is foolishness to those that that are perishing, but it also seems foolish to the mega-church theology.

            I thought your article was spot on Jerry and I’m pleased to have found the Cripplegate blog. Blessings to you in Christ.

            Ekim

        • Romabella50

          You must be talking about Pastor Piper. Many things he has done in the last few years are troubling.

          • Jake Richardson

            The two pastors outside my church i listen to regularly (i.e. daily) are John MacArthur and John Piper. Piper is every bit the expositor as MacArthur. Both men have a heart and passion for sound doctrine and preaching the unapologetic word. TV streaming or not, Piper is a faithful preacher.

          • Ekim

            No, not Piper, although I did find it disturbing on his new views siding with evolution scientists on creation and that a day could refer to a 1000 years. Pastor Piper did say that he could be wrong, tho.

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  • Caleb Kolstad

    Jerry- Great post!

    Often times faithful preaching is determined by what a shepherd is willing to say or not say knowing the specific needs, struggles, & failures of his own flock. In other words, their are some pastoral exhortations based on a faithful exposition that would get an amen in your church but in my setting would cut many nerves. The temptation is to not preach that which we know our congregation is struggling with, not interested in hearing, etc. A faithful preacher rightly divides the Word of God and is more interested in shepherding a healthy church than he is in trying to build a mega church.

    I also have seen some churches that preach/teach the Word of God faithfully BUT who really do not apply (corporately) what they SAY they believe. For example you can preach a great series of sermons on “Courageous Confrontation (Gal 6:1, Matt. 18:15f, Jude 22-23) and Radical Restoration (2 Cor 2, Luke 17:3-4)” but how many leadership teams and congregations faithfully live out these one another’s? James 1:22-25.

    Faithful Preaching + Biblical Listening + Spirit-Led Application =’s Spiritual Health-Life-Maturity. This is when reformation and revival are experienced in a local church.

  • http://twitter.com/SpencerDeBurgh Spencer DeBurgh

    Good to hear from you Jerry.

    The test of ‘really bringing it’ in preaching comes back to what happened in Nehemiah 8-9.
    The expositor translates and interprets the text so that his hearers understand its sense (8:8).
    The key marker of his faithfulness is if those who are being called understand what the Word is saying (8:12) so that they can repent of sin and change their ways (8:13-9:38).

    • Jerry Wragg

      Great points, Spencer!

  • http://www.atone.me bmh

    “Is a preacher’s “effectiveness” or “power” defined by established and measurable principles, or is it merely determined by audience size and response?”

    To the question…audience size doesn’t determine effectiveness, but response does determine effectiveness. In Acts we see that powerful preaching is both attractive and effective (and draws crowds) and so Reformers shouldn’t point the finger at multi-sites to excuse our dead preaching. That just smacks of envy. If we take Jerry’s three measures and apply them to the most gifted Reformed preachers today, we find guys like Driscoll, Piper and Keller…gifted pastors whose churches have overflowed from their preaching and have had to resort to multi-site solutions to accommodate the overflow and to church plant.

    I found Keller’s response to common criticisms helpful: http://redeemercitytocity.com/blog/view.jsp?Blog_param=99

    “…but ultimately it is the Spirit’s gifting that enables the preacher to reach various levels of influence.”

    Amen. So let’s truly believe that God is sovereign over all things..even multi-sites…and accept what God has already done.

    • Jordan Standridge

      Dear bmh,

      Please show me in acts where large crowds were gathered BECAUSE OF powerful preaching? All I see is Peter and Paul preaching to already gathered crowds and God using miracles to gather crowds such as healing the lame man in chapter 3. The text clearly states that the crowd gathered because of the lame man walking again.
      God was sovereign over 9-11 also and i know God used that to draw people to himself, but it doesn’t mean we should all get on a plane and fly into buildings.just because God is sovereign over it and let it happen is not a reason to do something.
      Thank you Jerry for your love for the church.

      • http://www.atone.me bmh

        “Please show me in acts where large crowds were gathered BECAUSE OF powerful preaching?”

        Did the 3,000 who heard and believe come back?

        God’s power is in the drawing, the preaching, the hearing and the believing. That’s all I meant.

    • Jerry Wragg

      bmh -
      Part two of this series will deal with the typical content of today’s preaching trends. I don’t automatically assume, as you seem to, that some of these men represent faithful Bible exposition in its classic definition (Piper excluded). I’ve been a pastor for some time, have listened to alot of preaching from many of these men that lead these trends, and I’ve been challenged through the years to analyze the differences as I prepare pastors for ministry in our seminary. I simply don’t draw conclusions about effectiveness and attractiveness from attendance or popularity. Not all early church ministries recorded in Scripture were “attractive” nor drew large crowds. Frankly, Paul’s approach in Corinth was deliberately tailored to stay away from assessing things by such surface standards (1 Cor 2:1-5). Also, you mention Driscoll as one you’d consider “gifted,” and yet your reasons given were precisely what my post warns against. He may indeed be “gifted” and doing ministry effectively for the Lord, but overflowing churches and multi-site “solutions” cannot satisfy those questions. A ministry’s biblical integrity is only known by its strict adherence to “every word that proceeds from the mouth of God” (Matt.4:4). You are right: God is sovereign over all things, but I don’t “accept” anything as that which “God has already done” until I see its submission to the whole counsel of God.

      • http://www.atone.me bmh

        “I don’t automatically assume, as you seem to, that some of these men represent faithful Bible exposition in its classic definition (Piper excluded).”

        I’ve listened to hundreds of sermons preached by these men (didn’t mean to leave out Matt Chandler as well) and have found them (despite your criticisms) faithful expositors of the Word. God has richly blessed their ministries, and we shouldn’t automatically discount that. Nor should we discount the sanctification in these men’s lives. Christian grace, after all, is a two-way street.

        “Not all early church ministries recorded in Scripture were “attractive” nor drew large crowds.”

        Ah, but that’s not what I said. I said “in Acts we see that powerful preaching is both attractive and effective (and draws crowds)” not meaning that there are always large crowds without exception but that the Word is powerful and the Spirit moves as he wills – somtimes on small scales, sometimes on large. What’s troubling is this growing idea within Reformed circles that large churches (including multi-site here) usually equates to bad preaching, and when the criticism comes from pastors who claim to espouse the sovereignty of God in all things, it makes me more than a little unsettled.

        “Frankly, Paul’s approach in Corinth was deliberately tailored to stay away from assessing things by such surface standards (1 Cor 2:1-5).”

        While this a poor application of 1 Cor 2, I agree that Paul didn’t care whether or not large crowds were around to validate his ministry. My point was that you can’t validate or discount preaching on the basis of numbers, but there should be a response. The Word is living and active, not cold and sterile – whether you’re preaching to 10 or 10,000. Articles like this one make me wonder how we would treat a Luther or Spurgeon if they were preaching amont us today – and yet, I have no doubt both would utilize modern technology to shout the Gospel as far and wide as they possibly could.

        • Gabriel Powell

          “My point was that you can’t validate or discount preaching on the basis of numbers, but there should be a response.”

          Perhaps it would help if you explain what you mean by “response.” It seems you are on the one hand validating these men’s preaching by their numbers, and saying, “don’t discount them because of numbers,” and then saying, “you can’t validate or discount based on numbers.”

          So I’m confused what you’re trying to say. As I read the article, Jerry isn’t discounting the preaching because of numbers as if to say that large numbers = bad preaching. What he’s saying is we can’t use numbers as the measure of good preaching. That seems to be the point. Numbers don’t validate. In the next post he’ll look more at the preaching trends.

          We’re not to make final judgments, but we are to examine fruit. The size of the crowd gathered for a couple hours a week isn’t fruit. True fruit would show up in the lives of those individuals (Gal 5:22-23).

          Also, being an expositor doesn’t mean you use the Bible in preaching. It means you explain the text of Scripture, or, the point of the passage is the point of your sermon. A discerning listener doesn’t just ask, “is he using his Bible?” but goes on to ask, “is the text saying that he is saying?” Unfortunately that is not always the case with some well known preachers.

          • http://www.atone.me bmh

            Gabriel, There is a distinction here you’re missing. Numbers aren’t proof of anything at face value, but that doesn’t mean they are meaningless when the Word of God is faithfully preached. Couldn’t agree with you more about right exposition. Yet I’m also astounded at how readily folks will jump on a sound bite in a blog post to prove that so-and-so isn’t faithfully preaching the Word, when they haven’t even taken so much as ten mintutes to listen to an actual sermon.

          • Eric Davis

            bmh,

            I don’t think anyone is saying, “large crowds = unfaithful preacher.” Instead, there is an appropriate challenge to the idea that “large crowds and talking about the Bible = blanket approval.” The crux of the argument here is what constitutes biblically faithful preaching. And it seems Jerry is going to address that in tomorrow’s post. Thanks bmh.

      • Ekim

        (This reply should actually go under reply to “bmh”) I certainly do not wish suffering to come upon us, but if persecution and a financial collapse comes upon us, we will see what’s left standing. If God was not the starting point in each of our projects we raise millions of dollars for, it will crumble. We see what man can do. If the Holy Spirit would suddenly be removed from the planet, much of what goes on would continue.

        I want to see what would happen if churches would declare as Paul, “And I, brethren, when I came to you, did not come with excellence of speech or of wisdom declaring to you the testimony of God. For I determined not to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified. I was with you in weakness, in fear, and in much trembling. And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.”

    • http://twitter.com/CrackedPot_40 Barbara

      I find one of the most fearful truths in all of Scripture, which is pointed out time and time again there, is that hardening is also a response to the preaching of the Word. People will hear and respond either in repentance or by being further hardened against it. Just because one doesn’t see a response in terms of people coming to faith and attracting crowds, doesn’t mean it’s ineffective. God’s word will not return to Him void. It may well be very effective – just not the kind of effect that man registers as a “result”. The OT prophets testify to that repeatedly.

      • http://myredeemerlivesministries.blogspot.com/ Mary ET

        Well said, Barbara. “The same sun that melts the wax also hardens the clay.”

        Excellent article, Jerry Wragg!

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  • Daron

    Great post Pastor Wragg. I am very thankful for your clear articulation of the issues and explanation of the dangers. It has helped me once again, discern between giftedness being affirmed by “ mass appeal or communication style” as opposed to it being defined by biblical categories of giftedness and faithfulness.
    As a young pastor in training the arguments for effective ministry being defined “with the number of listeners, or with rapidly filling a once empty church building, or with how many sermon-downloads, book sales, and multisite locations a preacher boasts” is appealing. As a young man it is easy to be seduced into thinking that “perceived effectiveness” is a move of God.
    I was once a YRR thoroughly impressed with my “perceived impact” and those of my mega “flat screen multi- site” mentors. Whenever I would get questioned by a more Godly men or women due to my affinity for men that use crass and foul language and spend their time contextualizing in bars for the gospel, I would answer by simply by pointing to “the scoreboard”. I then brought it upon myself to help those “ grumpy old men” see that my generation has nailed the pulse of the culture and “ how to really reach people”.
    In reality, looking back, I was so blinded by my own self absorption( Rom 12;3), and continually searing my conscience by associating deeds of the flesh with “contextualizing ‘( Isaiah 5:20), that I was utterly blind to see the pool of pride I was swimming in.
    Furthermore, I was not about to let some older person tell me where I went wrong in my belief when I saw such “impact”. All I had to do to affirm my carnal convictions, and combat this “ grumpy old men” was point to “some” men that I knew were faithful men according the scriptures (1 Tim 3), and say, “ see that guy that is faithful affirms this YRR guy too”. Looking back as I listen to “ some” men’s validation of YRR types, I see they too just appealed to the same “numbers”, saying things like “ look how many young people they are reaching, that is a group I would never reach” paraphrased.
    Once again, I appealed to categories that the scriptures do not appeal to when weighing “impact”, “effectiveness” and “gifting”. If numbers were the indicator then Jesus and Jeremiah were failures! I think 40 years without a convert and 11 confused disciples makes you a YRR failure. Anyways
    Currently, after being under the truth for 3 years of faithful expository preaching, a thoroughly biblical philosophy of ministry worked our in church life, and en emphasis on the biblical call to be holiness and an emphasis on a high view of God and the Scriptures in light of our own depravity.
    I can look back with some of my senses trained ( Heb 5:14) and tell you many of my motives for pursing the YRR movement were far from Godly. I don’t claim to know what other men’s motives truly are in the YRR movement, nor am I imposing mine on top of what theirs may be, only God truly knows that ( 1 Cor 4:5). But, I can tell you what was resident in my heart when pursuing that movement:
    First, I loved my own personal significance and that was easily fed by appealing to “results”, and “numbers” instead of faithfulness. Jesus dealt with that here. (John 12:43). And sadly my Diotrephes tendencies were inflamed by enlisting in that movement and following the YRR men. (3 John 9). It was not even that I was that “effective” by the “elephant room types” standards, but it was the fact that I could sit and dream of what it would be like to be an “ evangaceliberity”. This thought alone was utterly intoxicating to my flesh and gave me great motives to pursue my own approval and glory. Isaiah 66:2 reveals this danger.
    Second, I also love to be able to excuse, rationalize, minimize, and blame shift all my love for the world and call it “contextualization”. This was very convenient for my young heart so as to now have to deal with the appetites of my flesh. (1 John 2:15-17)
    So I thank the Lord for you Jerry in this post, as well as Dr MacArthur and Phil Johnson in former posts, for bringing clarity to issues that I was not thinking biblically about. I would of surely ended up another casualty of “evangalceliberitsm” , and even worse, or maybe it is the same some of the time…“shipwrecked in my faith”. 1 Tim 1:19
    Daron

  • http://twitter.com/CrackedPot_40 Barbara

    Mr Wragg,

    You said,

    “Some men and women can apprehend truth quite well, but are unable to systematically and persuasively re-teach what they know. Inexplicably, the truth they so clearly grasp in their mind and heart gets scrambled when it comes out of their mouth in a ministry setting.”

    And I just want to thank you for that. That is me in a nutshell and after hearing time and again how you can’t possibly understand something until you can explain it to a child, leaving me a bit bungled and confused, you have undone that confusion with that simple observation. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

    • Jerry Wragg

      :-)

      • Ekim

        Pastor Jerry, have you noticed that everybody is younger than we are? Please don’t judge by my picture. That was taken in 1976.

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  • John

    All well said, let’s not forget some very practical things that are factors in a church going from 35 to 1500. Resources, building, comfortable seating, parking, coffee area, advertising, childrens attractions, etc…. I think you’ll find that in many instances it doesn’t really matter who the preacher is …….. but those other things determine how a church “grows”. In fact the preacher maybe be unskilled but if you put him on video that may fool many. Hey this guy is on video he must be good. I don’t know who Jerry Wragg is, first time visiting here, but if done right, with the proper resources, his video feed can fill a 1500 seat auditorium.

    John

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  • http://twitter.com/jallman64 John Allman

    Pastor Wragg,

    Thank you for your consideration of my “gentle” exception to the original post and for this follow up. I am humbled to participate in this discussion. I do agree that numbers alone are not evidence of one being a “gifted preacher”. As others have stated here I also believe that rapid growth and multi-site churches are not necessarily evidence of a flawed teaching approach. I look forward to the next post in this series as that topic goes to the heart of my previous concerns.

  • Horatio

    Do you understand the word/phrase/sentence/passage in its scriptural and theological context BETTER upon leaving, than you did when you arrived? Do you leave with something to think about, or something to feel good about? Was your mind renewed, or were you lost in Greek or Hebrew grammatical details, historical backgrounds, and textual critical arguments, or worse, were you simply captivated for 20-30 minutes of anecdotes, followed by stories, and capped by the tearful reading of a hymn or poem? To explain the meaning of a text, in its context, and to have the theology of that text applied to the current circumstances of a PARTICULAR flock (or individual, or group): this is the mark of an effective preacher – regardless of the number of people who follow that man … or woman (as the circumstance would allow). Couldn’t agree with you more, Jerry. (And, hey, pass the hot sauce, would ya?) ;-) – WH

  • aaron

    Looking forward to tomorrow’s post.

  • Michael

    Well written, Pastor Wragg! I cannot agree more with you; the Word must be preached “in season and out of season.” Sometimes crowds come to hear the Word preached, as the Spirit moves; other times, the crowds will move on because the teaching hits too deep, and the Spirit has not worked, leading to the congregation to dwindle.

    As an aside, I am interested to hear about your discussion on Biblical teaching. I love how you have already given a few points on being a biblical shepherd:

    •a) Is the teacher able to clearly articulate biblical truth to others so that the listener understands exactly what God intends and grasps how to apply the truth for their spiritual benefit?
    •b) Is the teacher able to clearly and definitively refute subtle and blatant doctrinal error so that the sheep are protected from confusion or deception?
    •c) Is the teacher able to clearly bring profound and edifying spiritual insight from God’s word to the specific needs of believers so that spiritual discernment increases and they are compelled to obey Christ?

    I would add, pardon my boldness, a practical aspect to teaching. Is the teacher living out Titus 1:5-9? Is he fulfilling the biblical prerequisite of his role? Does he actively participate in the daily lives of his sheep, so that they are allowed to grow? Do they see his life on daily display as an example??? I fear many preachers do not fulfill these practicalities! This is one reason why there should not be “too many teachers,” as brother Paul would say.

    Now, I may be digressing a bit from the point of this post (actual teaching from the pulpit), but I could not help adding this. I just want to say, “keep up the good work! We need more wisdom from seasoned vets like you!”

    • pam

      Amen to that. Our pastors beat a path out of church when they are finished preaching. They don’t talk to the congregation(maybe afraid some grumpy old man or woman may have a question). NO one really knows them except their particular clique.
      That is the difference between these celeb. speakers and true pastors. It is all about them. True pastors are interested in knowing their flock and their flock knowing them. And not as the untouchables.
      These articles are great!!

    • Jerry Wragg

      Michael -
      Your added concern is spot on! For many in the new generation of pastors, “shepherding the flock” is a concept far different from its classic biblical framework. And we could hardly blame some of the them when they’re mentors are handing them a church-planting and ministry paradigm which prioritizes numerical growth and curb-appeal way above the actual duties of a New Testament pastor. I can only imagine the confusion of many aspiring young pastors who instinctively know that shepherding is a massive undertaking, but are being taught that ministry is mostly about numerical momentum, “hip” teaching styles, savvy use of technology, and emotionally-charged times of praise (usually referred to as “the worship”). How can a younger pastor deal with being the hyped-up strategist for all of that AND fulfill his biblical mandates?

      I was recently made aware of the specific “church-planting strategy” materials used by a highly popular movement of churches. Boiling it down, the “strategy” is all about market-assessment (what will get people to attend?) and the logistics for week-by-week church and small group gatherings. Pastoral leadership is largely reduced to planning, assessing, mobilizing, preaching, and evaluating “net-gain” (actual terms used) in numbers each week. There is no significant longer-term training of men for serious spiritual leadership, such as theology, Bible interpretation, effective preaching (they do talk “preaching,” but its focus is mostly on topically-driven approaches rather than true exposition), caring for souls in distress, bereavement care, refuting error (this essential leadership responsibility is utterly absent), church discipline, training and appointing other leaders (biblically qualified elders, deacons, undershepherds, et. al.), and meeting the unique shepherding needs of vastly different age groups in the church.

      We’ve planted three churches so far, and all of the above have been the priority for each new congregation and their leaders. Cool graphics and a web-presence, organizing and mobilizing people and resources for events and small groups, tracking “interest” levels, and planning outreach events is the stuff, not of body-life edification, but of logistics. To be honest, someone’s “interest level” is utterly irrelevant to us because that’s the realm where God works (Matt 13:3-23). Other matters—technology, mobilizing people and resources, event planning—these are needs automatically addressed by even newly planted churches when the sheep are under good shepherding. Moreover, logistics and strategies are helpful, perhaps even greatly needed for good stewardship of resources, but they are not the essentials of planting a church.

      Great to interact, Michael!

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  • http://www.facebook.com/seth.rima Seth Rima

    The discussion I find in response to each post on this blog is the reason I continue to return. I love reading the comments, and enjoy the back and forth. It truly does help me to digest the post and apply it accordingly. Thank you Jerry for this post, and for your faithful shepherding of your flock, and thank you to all the readers’ thoughtful, humble, and honest questions/encouragements.

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