December 20, 2011

7 Questions from Christmas Haters

by Jesse Johnson

Occupy Christmas

Every year, Grace Church gets a handful of letters from people asking why our church celebrates Christmas. In fact, it is not unusual for some people to actually picket our church’s Christmas concerts (picture a hippi-esque anti-war ensemble replete with protest signs), and those people would probably keel over if they saw the giant Christmas trees we have in our plaza.

Today, for the Christian haters of Christmas, I give as my gift my answers to the most common questions from those that object to the celebration of Christmas:

1. What is Christmas?

Christmas is the celebration of Jesus’ incarnation. This is actually the most critical of all the questions. When Christmas is simply seen as the celebration of God becoming man, the rest of the questions should grow wings and take flight.

2. Why is there a Christmas?

There is a Christmas because for there to be a sacrifice for sins, the sacrifice had to be sinless. Thus, the Messiah had to be both God and man. Moreover, he had to come to earth, born to a child of Eve, as Gen 3:15 prophesied. This is the main event prophesied in the OT, and the coming of the Messiah to earth (and his subsequent death and resurrection) is the subject of the entire NT. Obviously, Jesus Christ is the most significant person in history, and his life gives the believer every possible reason to celebrate.

3. What day was Jesus born?

We don’t know what actual day of the year Jesus was literally born. From piecing together the historical data, we can tell the year with relative certainty (3 BC, most likely—and if you disagree, please don’t hijack the comment thread). Some argue for a spring birth by saying that shepherds generally were not in the fields during winter, but that has never been persuasive to me (aren’t shepherds always in the fields?). Ultimately, we don’t know the date, the month, or even the season with certainty.

4. If it is Jesus’ birthday, why do we give gifts to each other?

Christmas is not so much Jesus’ birthday, as it is a celebration of God giving his son to the world. “Birthday” sort of trivializes it. But we give gifts because Christmas is a celebration of God’s gift to us. Christmas is an occasion to show love and joy to those whom we love, and it is a time of celebration. Gifts are simply a way to express that joyful celebration.

Beyond that, Christians are celebratory people. We sing (do any other religions do that?), we send cards, we give gifts, we have parties, and we orient a significant amount of our life around the celebration of God becoming man. Gifts are simply one element of that.

5. Is Christmas taught in the Bible?

The incarnation is described in Matthew, Luke, and Phil 2, as well as other passages. It is prophesied in the OT, and described without the traditional accompaniment of wise men and angels in John 1.

By this question, some people I think are trying to use the regulative principle. Their implication is if scripture doesn’t describe setting aside a particular day for celebration, then Christians should not do so either. Austin helpfully deals with the regulative principle here, but regardless, if this question is understood as celebrating a particular day, then it becomes a Romans 14 issue, where each of us is allowed to do what seems best.

6. By celebrating Christmas, is the church teaching a tradition?

Christmas itself is a celebration of the incarnation, and Peter says that we did not receive cleverly invented tales or traditions, but rather that the gospel is divinely inspired and testified through the Bible (2 Peter 1:16).

There are traditions associated with the way in which we celebrate Christmas (such as trees, fancy dinners, school breaks, December 25, stockings, cards, etc.), and of course these are not taught in the Bible. They are cultural celebrations that we enjoy, and that we use to point other people to Jesus. My family loves the stockings, tree, and advent calendar, but eschews Santa, as that seems to distract us from Jesus. But it is an area of personal freedom in Christ, so we don’t make a big deal of it.

7. Is Christmas a pagan holiday?

Obviously the celebration of Christmas has jumped the banks of Christianity, and is pretty well embraced by everyone—pagan and Christian alike (I hear it is huge in China, for example). I guess in that sense it is like the 4th of July, Thanksgiving, Memorial day, Labor Day, etc. Christians are generally pretty good about using it (along with Thanksgiving and some other days) to point back to Jesus. It has becomes an evangelistic time.

Christmas is the celebration of the incarnation of the second person of the trinity, which is hardly a pagan concept. The fact that our culture even embraces Christmas aids the evangelistic spirit of the season. Obviously Wal-Marts and Santa sleights get the message wrong most of the time. But as Christians, I think it is wonderful to take time every year to celebrate the fact that God became a man.

Jesse Johnson

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Jesse is the Teaching Pastor at Immanuel Bible Church in Springfield, VA.
  • Jason

    Jesse,

    Have you read through Snider’s blog on the Advent Season? I wonder if the traditional aspect of Advent season being about the 1st and 2nd Advent of Christ has been lost? This season has been my favorite ever because of the dual focus: a thankfulness for what came and a longing for what is to come!!

    • http://thecripplegate.com Jesse Johnson

      I have been and appreciated it tremendously. I’ve never followed the entire Christian calendar (as I think he does), but especially appreciate his focus on the major cristological events.

  • Guy

    Kuddos on your short but sweet answers.

    • http://thecripplegate.com Jesse Johnson

      Thanks Guy. Kuddos on your short comment :)

  • Fred Butterfield

    Thanks, Jesse. And at the (considerable) risk of “hijacking the comment thread,” I note that, while not exactly “ground zero” for Christmas Haters — that dubious distinction would arguably go to The Atheists of Palisades Park in your neck of the woods; see URL: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/12/atheists-hijack-christmas-nativity-display-in-santa-monica-critics-say.html — we on the Right Coast also have our Grinches.

    See, for example, the following URLs (http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/christmas-display-draws-controversy-in-loundoun-county/2011/12/16/gIQAX6qnyO_gallery.html; http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/06/crucified-santa-skeleton-_n_1131268.html), which chronicle the ongoing kerfuffle over the Christmas displays at the Courthouse in nearby Loudoun County — now a national news story.

    Merry Christmas!

    iHs/FB

    • http://thecripplegate.com Jesse Johnson

      Just when you thought Santa Monica could not get any weirder…

  • http://www.clintarcher.com Clint

    Like it J. We could have used a version of this on Halloween. I like to throw back at Xmas haters what they call Thursday, and if they know it was named to honor Thor the Nordic god of thunder.

    • http://thecripplegate.com Jesse Johnson

      That’s it! I’m taking every Thursday off from work from now on.

      • http://twitter.com/Shinar_Squirrel Gene Clyatt

        LOL You’d never work! Wednesday is for Woden, chief of the Norse Gods. Friday is for Frigga, his wife… etc. etc. etc.

  • Bryce Lenon

    Thanks for posting, Jesse.

    A couple of years ago I got into a 3-day online debate on Facebook with a gaggle of hyper-Calvinists who militantly stated the great evil and idolatry of celebrating Christmas. I was used to debating atheists and agnostics, but this was new for me and one of the most eye-opening and futile things I have ever engaged in. I found that they were ready to go to the death for Calvin, all the while pounding on doctrines that are not doctrines in regard to celebrating holidays. I felt my opinions were fair and balanced without resorting to ad-hominem attacks, but I was fighting a losing battle as I was labeled an ‘enemy of Calvin’ by suggesting that he was not the one we worship and despite his greatness, was not an infallible human being. It was a strange debate – but it was my first experience coming up against those who equate people who celebrate Christmas as blasphemers. I bowed out of the ‘debate’ (because I had a life to lead), no doubt to a litany of smug online high fives from my fellow debaters. I simply was astounded at the vitriol aimed at the celebration of Christmas (and at me, a Calvinist, but clearly not Calvinist enough) from those who call themselves believers.

    A few weeks later Phil Johnson posted some perfectly obscure and apropos Calvin quotes that clearly showed that he thought celebrating Christmas was a matter of conscience, for the most part. I thought ‘if only I had this for the debate!’ But God will glorify himself in the matter and therefore it doesn’t really matter if I had access to a trump card in the matter.

    Thanks for making a simple and profound treatment on the subject.

    • http://thecripplegate.com Jesse Johnson

      And this week Phil tweeted the Spurgeon quote where he said he wished there were ten–or even a dozen!–Christmases each year.

  • G-money Jay

    Thank you, I totally agree with this post. Well said!

  • Paul

    At the risk of being the lone bad guy on this thread, I’m not quite so sure we should so easily dismiss the concerns some people have around Christmas. Personally, I am kind of indifferent around it, neither celebrating it, nor decrying it.

    In taking a close look at Christmas, it’s important to consider that it was completely pagan in origin. So, contrary to your #4 question and answer, the reason we give gifts is because this is what the pagan tradition prescribed. We just incorporated it. That’s the honest answer (the same with the Christmas tree and other elements like “The Twelve Days of Christmas”).

    We should remember that the Catholic Church has largely grown not be conversion, but by acquisition. Along with its acquisitions, it has brought in a ton of paganism and simply re-labelled it (ie: idol worship replaced with saint veneration). In regards to Christmas, we literally have a pagan holiday overlaid with a thin veneer of Christianity. The result? A mixed up, syncretistic celebration.

    In #6, you mention the tree. I would recommend reading Jeremiah 10, regarding God’s displeasure:

    “A tree from the forest is cut down
    and worked with an axe by the hands of a craftsman.
    They decorate it with silver and gold;
    they fasten it with hammer and nails
    so that it cannot move.”

    In #7 you kind of blur the lines. Anyone can embrace a harmless, speechless, helpless baby lying in a manger with curious and cuddly animals looking on. Even pagans and athiests. What’s not to like? You lightly jab at Walmart, but this is what the season is largely about – consumerism.

    So a correct answer to #2 would be that there’s Christmas because we sort of adopted a pagan holiday, along with much of its customs, but replaced Mithras with Jesus.

    • Yay 4 Coffee

      While I agree that even in the church we find far too much consumerism in Christmas. The argument that it was originally a pagen holiday doesn’t work. If someone doesn’t want to celebrate Christmas because of it’s origins then also (in all fairness) they shouldn’t refer to sunday, thursday (I think all of them have a pagen meaning), they shouldn’t use wicker baskets, no halloween, I even think candles were pagen as well. The fact is most things in our culture have pagan origins, that does not mean that we can’t do any of it (that would be impossible). When I have a tree and decorations in my home at Christmas time, I don’t even know what it started as, does that mean I’m worshipping whatever god the people who started it worshipped? Of course not! Because that’s not what our culture equates with a tree.
      And as far as Jeremiah 10 is concerned, finish reading it. It’s talking about idols.
      Jeremiah 10:3-5
      3 for the customs of the peoples are worthless.
      Someone cuts down a tree from the forest;
      it is worked by the hands of a craftsman with a chisel.
      4 He decorates it with silver and gold.
      It is fastened with hammer and nails,
      so it won’t totter.
      5 Like scarecrows in a cucumber patch,
      their idols cannot speak.
      They must be carried because they cannot walk.
      Do not fear them for they can do no harm —
      and they cannot do any good.

      • http://thecripplegate.com Jesse Johnson

        Good point, coffee. What Jeremiah 10 teaches is that we shouldn’t worship our Christmas tree (or the angel on top of it).

        • Dianakukk

          “They have turned aside quickly out of the way which I commanded them. They have made themselves a molded calf, and worshiped it and sacrificed to it, and said, ‘This is your god, O Israel, that brought you out of the land of Egypt!’ ”

          I’m no bible scholar, but it seems to me this verse indicates that they “thought” they were worshiping the God of Israel! This is your god, O Israel, that brought you out of the land of Egypt!

          You may “think” that you are not worshiping the tree or the angel, but you are saying that these things represent something connected to our Lord that He never decreed! We are never told in Scripture to mix the things of God (holy) with the prfane!

          I am no “hater” I am a child of God. And I pray that the Church would wake up from the stupor that it is in!

          • http://thecripplegate.com Jesse Johnson

            Ummm…Diana, they were literally bowing down and worshiping the cow. They were dancing around it and declaring “behold Israel, your God who brought you out of Egypt.” I don’t do that with a Christmas tree. Seriously.

          • Dianakukk

            The verse says what it says. The pagans believed spirits lived in trees and that is where this tradition came from. It has nothing to do with the birth of Christ. Is it okay for a newly converted Buddist who has converted to Christianity to set up his statue of Budda and decorate it and then claim that it reminds him of Christ’s birth? Absurd!
            Then the LORD said to me, “Go again, love a woman who is loved by a lover and is committing adultery, just like the love of the LORD for the children of Israel, who look to other gods and love the raisin cakes of the pagans.”

          • Reform

            Diana, your not alone in this, in facte THE PURITANS, had the same line of thought. To bad Phil cant get out of that one.

          • http://mikesnow.org Michael Snow

            And likewise, I do not, therefore, refuse to drink milk because of a cow idol.

      • Paul

        As I said in my initial post, I am not decrying Christmas, nor am I calling you a sinner or an idol worshiper for engaging in it.

        Your “slippery slope” argument is somewhat weak (regarding days of the week being named after Roman gods, which is true). You don’t get into the “spirit of Monday”, but people certainly get carried away with the “spirit of Christmas” and all that it represents. Again, Christmas is basically a veneer of Jesus overlaying a Roman pagan holiday where we retain pretty much every aspect of the celebration. Are you okay with Vodou worshipers “venerating” saints that are simply a veneer for their previous gods? I know… of course not.

        The world has no problem with it because the season celebrates a voiceless, helpless baby that can’t offend. As for the Christ of the Bible? They can’t stand Him. And of course, commercialism just dismisses Christ altogether as a means to drive revenue.

        My main arguments were in regards to the questions and answers the OP presented. They weren’t based on fact, but more shades of truth, omitting the main reasons people object.

        For example, questions #2 #4 and #6 aren’t really true, are they?

        Where we are exposed to truth, we then have a decision to make. But we shouldn’t pretend the facts aren’t there.

        • http://thecripplegate.com Jesse Johnson

          I totally get into the spirit of Monday.

      • Pittbullgirl

        Paul, and Yay 4 Coffee,

        I think you’re both a tiny bit off about these things if I may say so.
        To begin with, yes, Christmas is technically a pagan holiday. It’s just a fact, one that can be easily researched. Also, the majority of Christians worship on Sunday because of Constantine. The actual day Jesus honored the Sabbath was Saturday. Jesus was a Jew after all.

        Basket weaving goes back as far as 12,000 years to Egypt and areas of the Middle East. Hardly a pagan creation. Same for candles.

        Halloween is clearly a pagan holiday. I know very few Christians that indulge.

        We exchange gifts at Christmas because the Magi gave gifts to the baby Jesus. Or at least that’s our excuse.

        As far as not participating in any part of pagan festivities, it can be done. We haven’t had a tree, or put up lights, or dressed up for Halloween, or even exchanged ‘Christmas presents’ in this house for 20 years. Amazingly there’s been no suffering because of it either. LOL!

        • http://thecripplegate.com Jesse Johnson

          Wildly off the topic, but Christians worship on Sunday because that is the day Jesus rose from the dead. It has zero to do with the Sabbath, and certainly existed pre-Constantine. Sorry, I couldn’t let that one pass.

        • Yay 4 Coffee

          Actually in Acts 20:7 Paul preached on “the first day of the week”. That was before Constantine.

          • Elizabeth Bunting

            “And on the first day of the week the disciples were gathered together to break bread.”

    • http://thecripplegate.com Jesse Johnson

      I appreciate your willingness to be the one bad guy.

      I can assure you that when I give gifts to other on Christmas, it has nothing at all to do with pagan origins. Did pagans give gifts? Sure. Did the wise men give gifts? Obviously. Did God give a gift by giving us his son? Definitely. I give gifts for the later reasons, not the former.

      My views on the Catholic Church are not hidden; But they don’t have the corner on the celebration of the incarnation, for sure. Heck, they set the date of Easter (look how well they did that!), and yet I feel that celebrating any of those days is not connected in anyway to Roman heresy.

      My family also uses a plastic Christmas tree, that I promise was never felled by an ax.

      Thanks Paul

      • Wojciech Grasmann

        And how actually it suppose to be helpful? Calling people who raise questions haters and give them a friendly tap on the back without dealing with the objections.
        Of course you don’t think about these customs as pagan when you take part in them but that doesn’t prove anything.

        Roman Catholics can defend every bit of their tradition in the same way (i know because I was one) – it points to this and to that, there so much good intention and ideas behind every single thing.

        Pagan origin of some therms in English (you Americans seam to forget that it’s not the only language in the world) it’s not the same as origin of a holiday.

        So let me repeat what Paul said in his comment above:
        “[...] For example, questions #2 #4 and #6 aren’t really true, are they?

        Where we are exposed to truth, we then have a decision to make. But we shouldn’t pretend the facts aren’t there.”

        Hope I expressed my thoughts clearly enough. I apologize if not – English is not my first language.

        • Reform

          Grassman, ask Jesse why the Puritans hated Christmas and Easter…..

  • Noah Hartmetz

    Jesse,
    In all seriousness, I am continually impressed by the grace God gives you to be as patient and gracious as you are with some comments. That goes for the whole Cripplegate team, too. I praise God for your example and pray that he might do similar things in me.

    • Peter

      I agree with every word from Noah.

    • http://myredeemerlivesministries.blogspot.com/ Mary Elizabeth Tyler

      I agree with you, Noah! All these authors here at CG are wonderful examples of what a Christian should be. MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL HERE AT CRIPPLEGATE!!!

      • http://myredeemerlivesministries.blogspot.com/ Mary Elizabeth Tyler

        Elaine, what was so funny! lol! I was going to say Merry Christmas to all the Cripple gators. Go…. Cripple gators!!!! :)

  • http://mikesnow.org Michael Snow

    Excellent essay that focuses on the essentials.
    Regarding your remark about shepherds, I have seen them in the field keeping watch over their flocks all winter long in Romania, and that at a latitude equal to the North Dakota/South Dakota border [but NOT the same climate!]. Move south to Bethlehem 2000 years ago during the Roman Warm Period, and people still claim that shepherds would not have been in the field in December? [Not that I beilieve that is the date, who knows?]

    • http://thecripplegate.com Jesse Johnson

      That’s what I thought!

  • Zerodashone

    Include most if not all PURITANS as Christmas Haters and John Murray.

    • http://thecripplegate.com Jesse Johnson

      Spurgeon has a lot to say about why the Puritans were Christmas haters. They sort of make the opposite point of today’s haters. They–for the most part–eschewed the celebration of Christmas because of its connection to the Catholic church and the mass. There are dynamics at play in Anglicanism in the 17th century vs. the RCC. Suffice it to say, the Puritans won. As Spurgeon pointed out, now the way to honor the memory of the Puritans is to celebrate Christmas, as its connection the RCC has essentially been severed. When you see your neighbor with lights up, you probably don’t think “he celebrates Mass under the authority of Rome.”

      • Zerodashone

        Thanks Jesse, please get me the part where “As Spurgeon pointed out, now the way to honor the memory of the Puritans is to celebrate Christmas”

        Blessings.

        • http://thecripplegate.com Jesse Johnson

          I guess that was the attempt in the above blog post. If it wasn’t convincing, that is fine. I gave it my best shot.

  • Evelkh

    I want to know what Constantine is doing for your salvation… you see he instituted christmas and easter… God instituted other festivals and they are not kept…so on a scale of one to ten I would take the risk of saying: Christmas is a lie. Everybody celebrates it. not just Christians. So count me out on account of the fact that I understand that God said, Obedience is better than sacrifice, and He did not institute this… So I gladly skip it…. I am not afraid of man or their: O but see it within context. I do see it context: The context is Christmas is a lie.

    • http://mikesnow.org Michael Snow

      You need to do your homework. The date of December 25 is rooted in the ancient belief that Christ was concieved and crucified on the same day, which in Tertullian’s [and others'] calculation [i.e. for the crucifixion] was March 25. Nine months later is December 25.
      “There is no record of celebrating Sol on December 25 prior to AD 354/362.” August was the main month for that.
      All Constantine did was to make Dec. 25 the official date. Do you celebrate Thanksgiving Day on the official date established by our ‘emporer’? Who ever claimed that a date had anything to do with our salvation.
      If Christmas is against your conscience, then be at peace and let it go. But don’t be like the niggardly prohibitionist teetotaler who would deny wine to the rest of us.

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  • Paul

    Jesse, to help make my point, here’s an insightful, non-argumentative post that really captures the thought-process of someone being confronted with information and then having a decision to make: http://airocross.com/2011/11/28/christmas-traditions-and-christians/

    • http://airo-cross.blogspot.com Justin Edwards

      Thanks for linking to my article, Paul. I somehow overlooked Jesse’s article when it passed through my Google Reader a few days ago. While I appreciate most of Jesse’s articles and everyone else’s here at CG, I am a bit disappointed at the (and I mean no disrespect when I say this) superficial answers he gives.

      Firstly, there are very real concerns for Christians who do not celebrate Christmas and those who are struggling whether or not to celebrate Christmas (such as myself). To relegate us as “Christmas haters” is neither respectful or charitable. Perhaps Jesse’s article is a response to the legalists out there who bash their convictions over the heads of others, but to lump everyone who does not celebrate Christmas in the same group is ignorant at best and disingenuous at worst.

      I’m mostly disappointed because Jesse has based his answers on, ahem, traditions, not Scripture. Firstly, his answer to #2 presupposes that Christmas is a Christian holiday or an ordinance from God to celebrate (when church history shows there was no celebration of Christmas in the first 2 centuries). Everything Jesse said in #2 was true with the exception of the first 4 words (“There is a Christmas…”). It is more accurate to say, “Jesus came…”

      With regards to #4, all I can say is, really? Again, one has to conjure up justification by tradition instead of justification by Scripture to support this argument. Nothing wrong with gift-giving, but one is grasping at straws to pretend this gift-giving at Christmas has anything to do with Christ (or the wise men who weren’t even present at the manger).

      As to #5, yes, the incarnation is obviously taught in the Bible, but not Christmas. Now, I have no issue with a day being set aside to celebrate the birth of Christ, and I agree that would be a Romans 14 issue. The problem arises, however, when we use pagan means to worship God. At least for me, that is the crux of the matter.

      The argument about days of the week, etc. being pagan is a red herring. We can’t live in this world without pagan origins influencing our day to day lives. Yet, we do have absolute control in how we worship God, which should not be influenced by paganism at all. How could it be if God is a jealous God – and He is.

      At the end of the day, we need to show one another grace, patience, kindness, love, and respect. Ultimately, the celebration of Christmas is a weaker/stronger brother issue (only God knows who is weaker and stronger in this case, I do not know). But let each of us be convinced in his own mind and not judge one another’s heart for celebrating or not celebrating Christmas. I am not a “Christmas hater”, although this is the first year we will not be celebrating it in the traditional sense. I still love many Christmas hymns and plan on spending the day with my family on Sunday after we go to church.

      Like Paul said, when we are confronted with information that may be true, no matter how contrary to our traditions, we must examine these things and make a decision. Up to this year, I was never confronted with these things, although for a few years I have grown increasingly weary of the consumerism and commercialism of Christmas. I believe this is a matter of sanctification for me, and trust it is a matter of sanctification for my brothers and sisters who continue to celebrate Christmas. That’s not to say they will ever stop as it is the Holy Spirit who brings this conviction for each of us. In fact, in God’s sovereignty He could allow us to “each be convinced in his own mind” so He could display His glory in how we treat one another in these matters.

      Grace and peace to you all in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. God bless.

      • http://mikesnow.org Michael Snow

        “…there are very real concerns for Christians who do not celebrate Christmas.”
        No one doubts that. And I would never desire to push anyone to violate their conscience.
        Nor should someone try to impose their conscience on others in such an ‘iffy” matter as those do who protest a Chrsitmas celebration and condemn those who celebrate it.

        • http://airo-cross.blogspot.com Justin Edwards

          Hi Michael, could you elaborate on “in such an ‘iffy” matter”?

          • http://mikesnow.org Michael Snow

            just re: all the irrelevant arguments, e.g. the ‘it’s not in the Bible’ meme; the date; ‘it’s Catholic’ o my!; the sun, etc.

          • http://airo-cross.blogspot.com Justin Edwards

            Are they irrelevant because you deem them so? Are you not doing imposing your conscience on others by stating such?

        • Elizabeth Bunting

          As one who has lived on both sides of this argument, I would like to comment without criticizing my brothers and sisters on either side.

          For the first 25 years of my life, I lived in a church and a family who “religiously” did NOT celebrate Christmas. We could not even say the word “Christmas” because that meant a mass for Christ. Christmas was a very glum time around our house. We were glad when it was over. People would constantly say to us “I thought you were Christians? Christians are supposed to celebrate Christmas.” I hated the whole scene and was glad when it was all over. I could not attend “Christmas Parties” from the workplace or any other place.

          My husband came from the same kind of family – you had to marry someone from the same denomination, or you would be excommunicated from fellowship. When we got married, we started having Christmas. My parents came over and also my great-aunt who had lived with us. They were previously against Christmas, but they loved coming to our house and watching our kids unwrap the gifts. We did NOT, however, teach our kids about Santa Claus. Our children and grandchildren celebrate the real meaning of Christmas and are believers on our Lord Jesus Christ. Celebrating Christmas or not celebrating Christmas did not seem to have an effect on matters of faith. Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures.

          For myself, I would not impose the title of “Christmas haters” on people who don’t celebrate Christmas. It is up to their personal conscience. I would not call their Christian faith into question because they don’t celebrate Christmas. They don’t have to – it is not an ordinance prescribed in scripture. The only two ordinances that I can see are baptism and communion.

          Just another take on Christmas or not. I am expecting some people to say I am disobedient to God because I celebrate Christmas. I don’t care, so save your energy for preaching to the unsaved who need it.

          Only by His Marvellous grace,

          Elizabeth Bunting

          • http://airo-cross.blogspot.com Justin Edwards

            Not from me. :) I’m glad you are convinced in your own mind and we can rally around the cross and not be divided over this issue. Grace and peace to you, dear sister.

      • Paul

        Justin, I really appreciated your article as well, especially your honesty and the tone. It was something my wife and I (now with 5 kids) battled when we first became Christians and were made aware of Christmas’ origins.

        Here, Tim Challies also posted, albeit mildly, on Dec 25th: http://www.challies.com/articles/why-is-christmas-the-25th

  • Lindsay_srwn

    So, as a christian is it wrong not to celebrate Chrisrmas? Cuz it seems like there are a lot of logical reasons not too. It seems your facts are lo gic not too butsomehow you arrive at the oppoite conclusion. Eartickling.

    • http://thecripplegate.com Jesse Johnson

      It is a entirely a Christian grey area. Be persuaded in your own mind. If you drink egg nog, do it to the glory of God. If you pass, pass the cup to the glory of God as well.

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